wp

Just go back to the 2 man core rule. It's common sense. If not, that's fine, just know if you're ESL- you are only serving to delegitimize and remove any prestige from your division by attempting to over bureaucratize a league; that as Bobby aptly pointed out, is full of part timers and those without the resources to adequately meet the stringent league standards.

I agree they were in the wrong for essentially acting "anti-social" and being toxic to the community that they belong to.

But equally, what kind of precedent are we setting when we hold grudges this long? I can believe someone to be in the wrong, but equally see that they have time served. No matter what; all of these players will have to carry this baggage for the rest of their lives. If they did indeed grow as people, I'm sure they are not proud of themselves. Players like snav and shane that (skill wise) deserve a shot at tier 1, may never get there simply because of this past baggage. So once again I ask: is this not punishment enough? We need to stop detailing every little thing that happens around these guys, and for all of our sakes, attempt to move on. Now, if they act a fool again and things change, we can act accordingly. But the way I see it, we need to stop torturing these guys; and for what? For some sense of "justice"? Or even more perverse things like, "revenge", or "making an example out of them"?

Stop and ask yourself, when in history have we "made an example" of others? And you will soon realize that logic like that is only a justification for more hate and creating more problems. Maybe I'm the idiot here, but I genuinely think that you kill your enemies with kindness. Be so kind to them, that they couldn't possibly be toxic to me if they tried. Apply that logic to everyone, and you'll find that both your mood and mindset will be better off for it. Because at the end of the day, CSGO is a game. It is a game I love, but a game nonetheless. To me, being a good human and striving for internal peace is more important than getting worked up over "mean guy say mean things on internet". Go out, hit the gym, make some new friends, and get lost in your passions. Don't waste your mental energy on the shortcomings of others. Simply wish them the best and hope they can attain the same inner peace that you have.

P.S.
The TM guys have been maaaaaad toxic to me before. Even attacking personal things like my music taste and voice. But unlike a scared man, I confronted snav and asked him "what did I do to you, why do you hate me?". And his response: "I don't hate you, or anyone :)". And at that moment I knew, these are just socially underdeveloped teens who are talking shit because it is fun for them without grasping the true gravity of their actions. Knowing that, why would I hold a grudge? I simply say, sorry for your weak character and I hope you grow both as a player and person. But I seek not to demonize them because, although I'm far too grown for this now, I would be lying if I said I was never a toxic ass back when I was 12-16. Difference is, I grew out of it much quicker- as does 95% of gamers. But that was because I had adequate socialization skills. I was the HS class favorite for "most talkative". I interacted with everyone and through that learned the nuance of the human condition and that we all grow in different aspects at different rates. So I don't find it that hard to believe that there is a group of teens out there (now men, I know) who have an incredible FPS brain but are lacking in the social department; and have these issues exacerbated by playing in an echo chamber with similarly thinking young men.